witnessing to a confused Catholic (is there any other type?)

Posted: January 17, 2007 by Daniel in Christianity, cults, religions and beliefs, street evangelism, tracts, Way of the Master, witness encounters

My wife had a guy come and measure up some curtains this morning and I was outside repairing some pot plants. I caught the guy as he was leaving. He looked busy so I just quickly gave him a ‘Smart Card’ tract. He stopped and seemed interested and we got started on a 15min talk. I was trying to be as interested and compassionate in my tone and he responded well. Unfortunately he had been inoculated from the biblical Gospel and he had a whole gambit of strange ideas that he had just made up because they seemed OK to him. I worked hard to show him that we are storing up wrath for a day of judgment when we die, but he thought that God was already at work in our lives judging us and that as we improved (became a better person) as we lived our lives we would be purified. I showed him that this is not the biblical gospel – that we will be judged for our law breaking; that God would not be good and just if he did not punish us: I told him to try his idea in a natural court! NO the judge must punish us for our lawbreaking.

I asked him “Why did Jesus come to Earth?
“To be an example for us” he replied.
I nodded and gestured him to continue.
“…To live a good life and die for our sins” he added.
“Right” I said, “Jesus came to offer his righteousness to all who will believe and repent of their rebellion.”

Our conversation continued and he continued to reveal more and more unbiblical ideas such as; God is in everything and in everyone; God is going to bring everyone to himself; etc. I countered most of these with scriptures that came to mind, but I just tried to keep on the basics of the gospel and trying to show him that all our righteousness efforts to be pleasing to God is like filthy rags.If you are a Christian, please pray for the curtain man. His name is Steve.-

— Later this morning, my family and I went into town to do a few jobs and go to a few shops. I am continuing to be more confident in handing out tracts. I gave one to a lady who was waiting in a car, another lady who was waiting on a car and to a lady in a department store. My wife also gave out a few to the people she had business with (I didn’t even know till she told me). This is really good for her as she is not normally as forward as I am. We prayed for all the people who got tracts and for Steve. 

I want to encourage you to get some tracts that you like and get in the habit of giving them out. I am still growing in this area. I used to think that I should only give them to people that I have time to talk to and explain what is on it, but I am more and more convinced that they can be skilfully used by the Lord for his purposes in Salvation. 

  1. Paul says:

    Need to address the confusion that seems to occurring in my mind with respect to Catholics and their evangelizing endeavors. It appears that Protestants use the word ‘evangelism’ while Catholics use the word ‘evangelization’ when talking about spreading the gospel. I am finding it hard to find the word ‘evangelism’ in catholic material.

    “Taken from the Latin word evangelium, (Greek evangelion), this word means “good news” or “gospel.” Thus, to evangelize means to do the gospel, to live it, to carry it out, as well as to proclaim it.

    To live the gospel, to challenge others by one’s example and lifestyle, to uphold true values, to open people’s hearts to the saving power of God, to build community, to struggle against injustice, to work for the transformation of society—these are all vital elements of the activity called evangelization.” Evangelization

    Now this is making much more sense to me now. Catholic evangelization contains proclaiming the gospel as part of its definition as you would expect. It also contains living the works of the gospel in catholic terms. This means evangelization includes, the Liturgy, Sacraments, pastoral care, sharing in the Eucharist, the charitable and social outreach of the catholic Church, and so on. However, It has both works and words of the gospel in the definition of evangelization. It is a very very broad definition. It is effectively anything and everything Catholic in deed and also presumably in word. I say presumably because I am still unsure as to whether the definition of evangelization includes biblical truths spoken in everyday conversation that are not related to the catholic gospel message. In other words if you were to talk about the biblical genealogies with no mention of the basic truths of the gospel with an unbeliever, is this still evangelization? I guess, as a catholic it is possible to be involved in evangelization without using words, that words are not necessary if you are so inclined. However, one would only be fulfilling or being one side of the coin that represents catholic definition of ‘evangelization’.

    The words evangelization (used predominately by Catholics) and evangelism (used predominately by protestants) have different meanings. The modern ideas of ‘evangelization’ have been taken from Vatican II. And I quote the following from a web page.
    “While evangelism was adopted by some Protestant Churches in the nineteenth century, that term was not used in the Catholic community. Just recently, in the middle of the twentieth century, a new understanding arose — that evangelization is linked to the entire Christian endeavor. This understanding influenced the documents of the Second Vatican Council and the Apostolic Exhortation on evangelization written by Pope Paul VI. Evangelization is the term that is used by Catholics today to share the good news of God’s love. Evangelization is the invitation for Catholics to share their faith.”

    Vatican II was trying to encourage Catholic laypeople by emphasizing that the work of evangelizing is not meant to be left to bishops, priests and missionaries alone.

    This definition is much more narrow and very specific.

    Evangelism: The word derives from the Greek noun euangelion, goods news, and verb euangelizomai, to announce or proclaim or bring good news. Therefore, evangelism is taken to be the proclamation of the gospel message to the lost. In essence this requires that the proclaimer (a representative / ambassador of Jesus Christ) to teach the gospel to unbelievers. And this gospel is viewed as a very specific message. Thus the act of evangelism does not include prayer, giving out food parcels and talking about Christian topics that do not explain the message of the gospel clearly to unbelievers.

    Yes Daniel, I am still working on the definitions of the Gospel and Evangelism. This is not as easy task as I had imagined. Reading the Council of Trent was a head banger. The Catholic mindset is very interesting indeed.

  2. Mark says:

    The Bible is a book, written by many thoughtful human beings over the course of 1,000 years. Nearly half of the New Testament was written by a guy named Paul. His Epistles were simply letters to his young congregations. Paul was a guy, nothing less nothing more. The Old Testament is the history of the Hebrew people. Nothing less nothing more. Avoid worshipping creative human works as if they were the Source of All Creation. When you do that, you put God in a box. That would be a very small God indeed. Peace.

  3. Mark,

    I appreciate your comment. You’re right, we are not to worship the bible. You are incorrect, however, to claim that it is a creative human work. It is God’s revealed word, you can trust the words in the bible completely. The established Christian view is that the authors wrote under the inspiration of God and that the letters and books stand up to the highest scrutiny.

    We should not worship the bible, but instead worship the creator of all things so I thank you for that reminder.

  4. Lex says:

    Witnessing to Confused Evangelicals (there is no other type). I’d love to leave a thorough comment, but I will have to return when I have more time. However, it is always refreshing to see yet another insult to my Faith right before bed!

  5. Lex I hope you were not offended at my correction of the statements:

    God is in everything and in everyone; God is going to bring everyone to himself; etc.

    Scripture is really clear – God is not in everyone. Many will perish on the day of Judgement. Its not me making this up; there are a lot of verses that teach us about it.

  6. Morse says:

    Should be fun.

    When is this day supposed to happen, by the way?

  7. Here is some further food for thought on the difference between the Catholic and Evangelical view of the bible.

    If one actually reads medieval theology, the Reformers, the Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent (they understood the Protestant doctrine of justification quite clearly and condemned it unequivocally),the Roman catechism, and the Protestant confessions, one will find that, in fact, there are a number of profound differences between Rome and confessional Protestants. Chief among those differences is this: the material issue of the Reformation has never been resolved. The mainline ecumenists have wished it away. The evangelicals have fudged it but there it is, the elephant in the corner: Rome still confesses that we are justified because and to the degree we are sanctified and we are sanctified (and therefore justified) only by grace and cooperation with grace. It was that last clause, “and cooperation with grace” that gave rise to the Protestant criticism that Rome effectively teaches justification by works.

    Why Can’t the Evangelicals See the Canyon?

  8. tiber jumper says:

    Yes, there is another type of Catholic! I know many that have a cogent defense of their beliefs in Christ and His Church.
    Many Protestants can be confused about their beliefs also.

  9. Thanks Tiber Jumper,

    Yes it is a polemical title. I am glad it gained your attention. You are right in saying that many protestants/evangelicals would be confused. I was for 10 years, but have found certainty with the basics in the last couple of years.

    I don’t doubt that you can express yourself clearly and articulate what you believe. I also don’t doubt that there may be true and false converts in Catholicism, just as there may be in evangelical Churches. I do think it is possible to be a Christian and be a member of the Catholic Church.

    But what about the essential doctrines of the Catholic Church? Catholicism teaches that God and man work together for the salvation of a man. Incidentally, so do many Protestant Churches – we call this Arminianism. This can be defined theologically as Synergism. The Church had an important event called the Reformation in the 16th Century: we will be celebrating this on the 31st of October (next Wednesday).
    Here is a clear description of how Catholicism and Protestant Arminianism differ from biblical teaching on salvation. 😉

    When the term monergism is linked with the word regeneration, the phrase describes an action by which God the Holy Spirit works on a human being without this person’s assistance or cooperation. This grace of regeneration may be called operative grace. Cooperative grace, on the other hand, is grace that God offers to sinners and that they may accept or reject, depending on the sinner’s disposition.

    RC Sproul

    So I do feel that it is a reliable thing to say that Catholic Church is confused about the gospel. 🙂

    Resources for further discussion:

    Bennett, R.M. (2007) The Invincible Gospel, and the modern evangelical lie, Berean Beacon

    Sproul, R.C (2007) Monergism v. Synergism

    Webster, W (2007) The Roman Catholic Teaching on Salvation and Justification

  10. Johnwells says:

    It amuses me to remember that the Orthodox Churches used to have a special exorcism for Calvinists.

  11. Tiber,

    I listened to the video. It praised the Catholic heritage and idea that there is a line of popes going back to Peter. The guy seems really happy to be a part of the Catholic Church. My chief concern is with the Catholic understanding of the gospel. The video did not refer to this in any way.

    Here are some videos that might focus this debate:

  12. tiber jumper says:

    “Incidentally, so do many Protestant Churches – we call this Arminianism. This can be defined theologically as Synergism. ”

    Does your definition of the gospel preclude the possibility that Arminians (both Catholic and Protestant) can’t be saved? I find it impossible to believe that all those souls between 70 AD(after the last apostles died) and 1517 had a false understanding of the gospel (synergy) and therefore cannot possibly be in the fold on that Great Day.
    If the Church was wrong about its understanding of the gospel from the very early days until the Reformation, then Christ certainly was wrong and the gates of hell did indeed prevail against the Church. In Luther’s time, he felt the anabaptists had a false view of the gospel and believed they should be banished because of it! He even used Catholic theology to argue with them regarding the need for infant baptism. So was he wrong about the gospel? How can you 2000 yrs later be so confident and cocky(based on the title of your blog post) that you are sure about the gospel now? You even admit for ten years you weren’t sure. Perhaps 10 yrs from now you may change your mind again regarding your definition of the gospel? Greater minds than yours or mine have done so (Dr. Beckwith, former pres of Evangelical Theological Society, John Newman, GK Chesterton, etc etc)
    Monergism is a relatively new development of theology. Christians before 1517 have always believed in Christ’s death on the cross for remission of their sin, but also knew as Paul did, that they needed to run the race(obey God, matt 25) and “hope” to achieve final salvation. Not live in dread fear of not being saved, but continue to live our lives in obedience to Christ completely empowered by His Grace and not our own ability to do so. We are not saved by faith alone but certainly grace alone.
    I don’t mean to be unkind here, but I bristle against the notion that you can confidently post about the “confusion of Catholics”, when you yourself claim to have been confused up until recently and your clarity now is based on assumptions that are relatively novel in the grand scheme of things.(500 yrs vs 2000)
    You also may want to keep in mind that calling Catholics confused on your blog doesn’t bode well for your success in winning souls for Christ. Can I ask how many Catholics you have been able to “bring to the Lord” with your evangelism efforts?
    Sorry for the long rant, but I think you purposely asked for it. 🙂
    For more ranting, go to:

  13. You asked

    Does your definition of the gospel preclude the possibility that Arminians (both Catholic and Protestant) can’t be saved. I find it impossible to believe that all those souls between 70 AD(after the last apostles died) and 1517 had a false understanding of the gospel (synergy) and therefore cannot possibly be in the fold on that Great Day.

    Well, to quote myself from the 28th Oct,

    I do think it is possible to be a Christian and be a member of the Catholic Church.

    One is not saved by adhearing to a particular theology, creed, denomination, etc., but by grace, through faith in Christ alone. The bible is clear what saving faith is and what it looks like. It’s a gift from God; the person is now able to believe God’s promises and turn from sin.

    Have I won any Catholics? Well, that has never been an intention or my target audience. The aim of this blog is to encourage and strengthen Christians in sharing the gospel. I am, however, ready to explain what I believe if asked. What we are engaged in is apologetics not evangelism; so the intention is not declaring the gospel but defending the gospel.

    Is there a large period of history where no-one was saved? Well consider what God did at the time of Elijah? The prophet thought that he was the only person God had on the earth. He complained to God…

    Romans 11:4-5 But what is God’s reply to him(Elijah)? “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.

    Sola Fide: Justification by Faith Alone
    The “Material Principle” of the Reformation was justification by faith alone. As the Westminster Confession of Faith says, “Faith, thus receiving and resting on Christ and his righteousness, is the alone instrument of justification: yet is it not alone in the person justified, but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces, and is no dead faith, but worketh by love.” The Genevan Confession likewise pointed out the necessity of those justified living by faith saying, “We confess that the entrance which we have to the great treasures and riches of the goodness of God that is vouchsafed us is by faith; inasmuch as, in certain confidence and assurance of heart, we believe in the promises of the gospel, and receive Jesus Christ as he is offered to us by the Father and described to us by the Word of God (Genevan 11).

    As the Scripture says,
    Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations shall be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.” (Galatians 3:6-11)

  14. tiber jumper says:

    “Well, that has never been an intention or my target audience. ‘

    Does that justify using your blog as a means to insult them then? How would you and other reformed believers feel if I did a blog post entitled “Witnessing to a confused protestant, is there any other kind?”
    We are called to treat others as we would have them treat us regardless of our personal opinion regarding their particular understanding of penal substitutionary atonement. Regardless of whether our interpretation of Scripture differs from theirs. We are all going to have to account for every word we speak. Does the doctrine of predestination free any of us of our duty to love and to respond in charity to those who hold different theological viewpoints? Thanks for your response.

  15. I would not be insulted by a ‘confused protestant’ post.

    What does it mean to speak in love?

  16. Proud Christian says:

    i wish to reply

  17. Proud Christian says:

    Hello. I am an active Christian and am apart of the Catholic Church family. I am saddened to read your posts – especially your bold heading of ‘witnessing to a confused catholic – is there any other type?’. I am saddened because you clearly are uneducated about the teachings of the Catholic Church and have put your posts under the category of ‘cults’, implying that the Catholic Church is a cult. Why is it that as Christians we are the first to judge and put down other Christian denominations? ie.your heading. I am sure there are confused Catholics out there, just like there are other confused christians in other denominations – including yours?, however you have made a mistake mixing these people’s thoughts/beliefs up with the teachings of the actual Catholic Church.

    The Catholic Church does teach, that good works are an important way of
    purifying our hearts so that our hearts are pleasing to God. Only
    by God’s grace can we get to Heaven, but our works are important
    because works (or behaviours) are our free will response to God’s
    grace, and help to keep us from straying away from the path (ie the
    narrow road) to Heaven. Otherwise we could just do whatever we feel
    like (sin) and secretly think, doesn’t matter, I have declared Jesus
    Christ as my Lord and Saviour, He will save me anyway…
    So this is the context how good works (keeping the commandments,
    prayer, fasting, charity etc) are an important part of any fruit bearing Christians life. But this is very different from earning our way into Heaven. At mass (Church service) we say, “Lord Jesus I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word, and I shall be healed”. No one is worthy of going to Heaven – Jesus makes us worthy. But at the same time we are free to choose to accept God’s grace and do the Fathers will (good works) or reject God’s grace and Jesus’ sacrifice (do whatever we feel like for our own sake). We are judged for our efforts: The bible says, ‘It is not anyone who says to me “Lord, Lord,” who will enter the kingdom of
    Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in Heaven.’
    (Matt 7:21)

    In future, please educate yourself fully before you claim things against the gospel teachings of the Catholic Church and saying things such as that there is no other ‘type’ of Catholic other than ‘confused’. I suggest that you choose your recourses wisely and that you read the catechism as posted on the vatican website or talk to a priest. You will see that the Church does not teach that good works earn our way into Heaven as commonly claimed against Catholics.

  18. pyropenguin says:

    hello there Mr Proud Christian.
    I am a different person, not the one that started the above post.

    well I must say that I am perplexed and puzzled buy your reply to Mr Chapman
    my self I wish to take this opportunity to ask you some questions.

    first I must say that we on the reformed side of Christianity have a different view and perspective than your good self, on the catholic church and its gospel message, as broad as this divide may or may not be! lets see if some ground can be covered.

    I will quote you below and comment…
    “Why is it that as Christians we are the first to judge and put down other Christian denominations”

    how is the Catholic church a “denomination”? the catholic church says that it is the only true church, and all other non catholic “churches” are “not churches”

    “The Catholic Church does teach, that good works are an important way of
    purifying our hearts so that our hearts are pleasing to God. Only
    by God’s grace can we get to Heaven”

    “You will see that the Church does not teach that good works earn our way into Heaven as commonly claimed against Catholics.”

    can I please ask your understanding of the 24th canon from the counsel of Trent

    Canon 24: “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.”

    Is one to be a true Catholic and yet differ on what the Catholic church teaches?

    Council of Trent Dec. 13, 1545 and was closed on Dec. 14, 1563

    please note that these Canons have never been denied by the Roman Catholic Church.

    # CANON 9: “If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.”

    # Canon 24: “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.”

    CANON 12: “If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified … let him be accursed.”

    # Canon 14: “If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema.”

    # Canon 33: “If any one saith, that, by the Catholic doctrine touching Justification, by this holy Synod inset forth in this present decree, the glory of God, or the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ are in any way derogated from, and not rather that the truth of our faith, and the glory in fine of God and of Jesus Christ are rendered (more) illustrious; let him be anathema.

    NOTE that this council declares that if anyone disagrees with it, they are damned.

    If you are a Catholic as you say, you must agree with these and all the rest.

    From my point of view I can see alot of difference between the gospel teachings of the Catholic church and reformed biblical Christianity.

    so can I ask one ending question:
    how did you come to know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?

    kind regards from pyropenguin

  19. carrie says:

    Faith Alone for salvation is a 500 year old heresy, totally counter to scripture.
    It was so counter to the teachings of sacred Scripture that one of the reformers (aware of this) sought to add to the word of God by putting the word “alone” in his german translation of Scripture. This same reformer and father of “reformed biblical christianity” sought to remove the book of James from scripture ignoring the canon that had been in place from 392 AD to 1517. He said “Jimmy was an epistle of Straw and should be thrown into the stove.”
    I would rather side with the gospel that had been understood by the Catholic Church that Christ started 2000 years ago then agree with a “new gospel” based on perversions of Sacred Scripture and attempts to create a new canon to better fit a new theology. Luther wasn’t the last to attempt to pervert Scripture. JW’s Mormon’s etc did the same. But it’s your choice. We have free will thanks be to God.
    Hope this clears up some confusion among the protesting christians.

  20. pyropenguin says:

    Hello there Carrie
    so if I understand you right, you are saying that the “Gospel of Grace and faith alone and not by works” is a 500 year old heresy that is totally counter to scripture.

    I need to give context to your quote of Mr Luther and add the missing words [compared to the books of Paul]
    “St. James Epistle is really an epistle of straw compared to [St. Paul’s letters], for it lacks this evangelical character” Deutsche Bibel 6 as quoted in P988. Luther however, never declared James or any other New Testament book non-canonical. He even quotes from James in his writing.

    I believe the book of James to be part of the cannon of 66 books. But we must move on to the more important topic of the Gospel.

    but how do you biblically proof the “grace and works”?
    I know that you will go to the book of James, and so you should…
    however in the light of other scriptures like:

    “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin” (Rom. 3:20).

    “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name” (John 1:12).

    “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law” (Rom. 3:28).

    “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God” (Eph. 2:8).

    “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 3:24).

    “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom. 5:1).

    I don’t have any confusion about my protesting position,
    I believe that I am saved by Gods Grace alone, and that NO works I do help me.
    please note that that statement is not saying “I don’t do good works”

    My good works flow out a thankful heart, that is wanting to please my father in heaven who chose to save me, He gave me grace. I was dead in my sins and HE gave me life.

    All the good works I did as a unsaved person did not grant me favor with God in the past and that nothing I do in the future will improve my standing with God.

    I am off to work now, so I cant write any more, but I dearly want to hear your view on the above scripture and how you “fit it in”

  21. LK says:

    Since you are confident you are “saved,” perhaps you can clarify some points for me.

    Do “saved” people still commit bad acts? And if so, how do they justify them? If people who are “saved” still commit bad acts, does that mean they really weren’t “saved” to begin with, and if so, who gets to determine this?

    Is a multiple axe murderer who accepts the Lord Jesus Christ 15 seconds before his passing more acceptable to the man upstairs than a Jewish person who leads a charitable life, who is truthful and honest in his dealings, who is without sin, but who remains Jewish until time of his death?

  22. corinne king says:

    Hi, I give out tracts wherever I go too. I was a deceived Catholic for 25 years and then read the New Testament and got saved and the Holy Spriit filled me!!!! :-)))))
    A few days after I got saved I had a vision of Jesus Christ! He appeared to me in my bedroom. I am so happy!
    O:K to every Christian, I found a website where you can get 30 Gospel of Johns FREE each month. The first couple of pages in each booklet goes over the salvation plan. And you can chose which version you want to give out.kjv..niv..esv. I use the KJV 🙂
    All you have to do is go to http://www.pocketpower.org/signup0602 and put in the referral number 274623. It takes just a minute or two to sign up and then it will ask if you want to pay for them or get a sponser. You click sponser and then write a sentence why you’d like to have someone sponser you, and then within one to 2 weeks they come Absoulutely FREE in the mail..And you can order 30 more for free every month after!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are GREAT to give out when evangleizing because people can dig into the word right away!!!!
    In him,
    Corinne King Corking@live.com

  23. Daniel says:

    Thanks for the link Corinne, I will check it out.

    Yes its wonderful when our eyes are opened to the truth that Jesus alone can save us from our sin.


  24. Lk,

    I am responding to your question regarding a Jew who is “without sin.” Romans 3:23 is clear in stating that ALL have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. Romans 3:10 and 3:12 also make it clear that no one is righteous. “No, not even one.” Please check out these verses. Everyone has sinned. Christ said; “even if you lust after a women in your heart, you have committed adultery.”

    In response to your question regarding an axe murderer, YES!, he will absolutely be forgiven if he truly believes on the name of Christ. The Bible clearly states that one must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth. If the axe murderer accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior, he, in an instant, becomes new in Christ. Check out what Christ Himself said to the thief on the cross.

    Luk 23:43 Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

    The idea that certain sins or committing too many sins will exclude one from God’s grace, implies that Christ’s blood was not worthy enough to cover all sin. Not true, the blood of Christ covers all sin. HE IS WORTHY.

    Rev 5:12 In a loud voice they sang: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”

    Isa 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together,” says the Lord. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.

    In His service,

    John Chisholm

  25. Daniel says:

    Thanks for taking the effort in responding to LK – you are also doing the service of answering others who might read this and have similar questions.

    Nice to hear from you John

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